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Snowride Grizzly Bear

Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Blainville, Quebec, Canada

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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: Extreme cold starting tip |
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Now that some of you are faced with the coldest conditions of the year, I thought it my be wise to tell you about this little trick which may get you out of a no start situation. This is only good for quads equipped with a pull starter and you need to have another person available. If you hit the starter and do not really have enough juice to be able to crank the engine over properly to start, simply ask the other person to push the starter at the same time you pull the crank. The combined effort will make the engine spin over like it was almost summer. Grab the pull start and put some effort into it. Once engaged and the pressure is applied, have the other person push the starter button and pull like your life depended on it. Who knows, depending on your situation, it just may.
I have made this a sticky until the temps warm up and will unstick when they do.
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Mud Sheriff

Joined: Aug 06, 2003 Posts: 1880 Location: Superior WI

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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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I have used this method a few times on friends quads and it has worked great.
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Weasel Marshall

Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 5567 Location: Wasilla, Alaska

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Snowride Grizzly Bear

Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Blainville, Quebec, Canada

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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Actually, many, many, many moons ago I owned an Ambassador 67 (first car which I could call mine) I used to ski almost every weekend up north and the car was parked about 1/4 km from the chalet we rented ($250 for the winter season, boy have things gone up) and with no way of plugging in any kind of block heater or heating device, we would bring coals from the wood stove placed on a steel tray and slide it under the engine. An hour later it would fire up just fine @ -40. Oh yeah, almost forgot, those old auto trannies were real easy to push/pull start. Just tie a rope to her, drop her into drive and get her to about 35, this is where the engine will start to turn over. 
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Weasel Marshall

Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 5567 Location: Wasilla, Alaska

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OMOTM Fox

Joined: Aug 13, 2003 Posts: 25

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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Little colder where you are Weasel, its only -48 here. LOL Next time you are in town, go to Home Depot and get yourself a Hot Air Gun, only about $40-$60 depending on brand name. They are used for taking up old tile floors. I have used mine many times for defrosting pipes, carb cables etc. The air coming out is very hot, but adjustable by controling air flow with valve on side.
Oh Yeah, for the atv's, I use a Master Heater for about 15 minutes prior to starting. One thing I have found out is that my wifes 400 SP 4 stroke is very easy to pull over with recoil, my 2 stroke will remove your fingers trying to pull it at -20 or better.
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Weasel Marshall

Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 5567 Location: Wasilla, Alaska

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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OMOTM:
Was in Tok Saturday night. It was down to -60 and man did it take me awhile to get my Powder Special started. My arms are still sore from pulling on that thing
As for the truck here is how I finally got it started....lol...!
I took a blow dryer and put it as close to the carb as possible, then put our small area heater directly behind the blow dryers air intake......so by the time the air got to the hair dryer it was warmer than -60
2 Hours later and minus a few numb fingers.....I had an unstuck carb (finally).
Take care,
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Kingman109 Deputy

Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 1522 Location: New Brunswick, Canada

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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I tried this trick on my friends Big Bear yesterday and it worked great. excellent trick that i didnt know about. thanks snow
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Deeds Fox

Joined: Aug 21, 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Aurora, Ontario

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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Boy, did I look smart today....It was -30C overnight, went out to start the sleds and the batteries were frigged. Normally that means we pull those 500cc pig phazer engines. But I remembered this post, so we pulled AND used the electric, so it was easier doing both to get turnover. Worked great on one sled then another.
Funny how you're built to think either "electric" or "pull", yet doing both at the same time, though intuitive, just didn't click in until this post.
Thank-You!!!!
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Deeds Fox

Joined: Aug 21, 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Aurora, Ontario

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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PS...
The fact I wanted to post my "thanks", let's you know I was the one who had to do the pulling on each machine (plus my own, which isn't electric, so it was a nasty morning)...lol
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Snowride Grizzly Bear

Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Blainville, Quebec, Canada

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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Glad I was able to help and be thankful your sled was a 2 stroke or you would never have been able to pull her over.  My 600 triple is easily started in the sitting position but @ -30 it would be a bear doing it standing up and putting everything I got into it, but doable. It's -29c this morning here also for the second day in a row.
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High Velocity Coyote

Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 70 Location: Hinton, Alberta

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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Cripes, Snowride !!! You actually sled at -30*. Yikes !!!! Even if I was silly enough to want to ride at those temps, I'd never get my sled started. I had to start my 800 RMK once at -25*C to unload it off a trailer and the thing felt like it was siezed.
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Snowride Grizzly Bear

Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Blainville, Quebec, Canada

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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Yep and the coldest I am stupid enough to go out in is -35C
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High Velocity Coyote

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:15 am Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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I'm getting cold just thinking about that !!!
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Mud Sheriff

Joined: Aug 06, 2003 Posts: 1880 Location: Superior WI

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Extreme cold starting tip |
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On either of the thunder cats I had over the last few years if you wanted to get them started when it was colder than -30F you better bring friends. High compression motors are no fun when its below zero and then they get worse.
On the other hand when I was still in HS and riding a 91 Phazer II I never had a problem getting it to start even when it was 40 below. Two or three pulls and off you go.
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